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The Klipsch Epic Series speakers were Klipsch's attempt at a "high end" sound.There are several models in the Epic Series, the CF 2, an dual 8" with a Horn, the CF 3 - A dual 10" speaker with a horn in the center, and the CF 4, a dual 12" with a horn.The cone drivers are of very high quality, and use Neodym Magnets.The compression driver has a 2" throat, and also uses Neo Magnets in the CF 3 and CF 4.The CF 2 uses a phenolic diaphragm compression driver, not sure of it's magnets.The CF 3 and CF 4 use an aluminum dome compression driver with Neodym magnets coupled to a Tractrix horn centered between the cone drivers.The crossover provides for easy bi wiring AND Passive Biamp, more on that later.The Epic series did not sell very well, and was not well received by the Klipsch dealers.It did not have that typical Klipsch sound {Thank God}, and was not as efficient as other Klipsch speakers.Being a quasi D'Appolito type array meant you had to sit down to really hear it, unlike the other Klipsch speakers that sounded "good" standing up.As a result of the dealers slow sales of the Epic Series, Klipsch Marketing Salesmen demanded a re design of the speaker.The re design was called series 2, and this is what they did to the speakers.Port tuning was raised by using 3 inch ports instead of the originals 6 inch ports, and a crossover change was also done.The Epic series 3 speakers had a lighter woofer for even more efficiency, but with a huge loss of sound quality.Many of you will probably want to try a pair of these marvelous speakers after reading this review, just stay away from the series 3's.The series ones are the most desirable, series two second.Series two can ALMOST be "restored" to series one performance by simply pulling the old 3 inch ports out, and replacing with 6 inch ports{They pull right out, easily}In stock form, the Horn runs too hot.These crossover to the Horn driver at around 1000 hz.Unless you place these on a wall or almost in a corner, the horn overwhelms the other drivers.And once on a wall, kiss your imaging bye bye too.Even on a wall/corner, the horns level is still too hot, making the speaker ruthless of equipment/source.The solution ?Remove the metal jumpers on the back of the speaker, and use two amps, and one MUST have level controls.Use one amp to power the woofers, and one to power the horn.About amplifiers, these seem to like high current big solid state amps best.Currently, I am using a GVD Audio on the woofers, and a little Parasound HCA 500 on the horn.My preamp is a Tube Dared with used GE NOS 12AT7 tubes I got from Jim McShane.I am using dual runs of Radio Shack flat speaker wire that Albert Von Schweikert turned me on to.These speakers are SUPER amp critical like many horns.That first 10 watts gotta be clean, or you will hear it.The GVD Audio P6500 has been a total surprise.It is a "pro sound" type amp with balanced connectors and cooling fans instead of heat sinks.My tech looked inside it, and flipped out. He said "This amp is a current mirror".I said WTF is a current mirror ?He told me it is an advanced amp design that cancels out distortion and allows for lower feedback.Ho hum, but HOW does it SOUND ? In this case, excellent.I have another GVD Audio p 6500 amp, but it sounds so good the way I have it, I am afraid to touch anything.I have B&W matrix 801's, they are my reference.Do the CF 3's sound like the Matrix 801's, not quite, but when I listen to the CF 3's, I dont miss my 801's.Does that make any sense ?The CF 3's are imaging Mo Fo's, and will cast a 3d sound field in a heartbeat.Do NOT "assume" a big box will not image.Imaging is very very good, almost single driver like.MAYBE it is because the 10 inch drivers are both in operation up to 1K and are becoming directional like a single driver speaker would ?The CF 3 also has a coherence about it, once the level on the horn is reduced.BTW,, once you are passively bi amped, you simply adjust the level of the amp that has level controls. You want to reduce the horns level relative to its woofers.Once you get it adjusted, you can also make "settings" on the amps level controls.We all know a bright speaker can sound great on the best recordings, but sound like shit on all else. The CF 3's, used in passive bi amp mode with level adjustment will allow you to have both an impress your audio buddies with detail speaker, and a speaker you can listen to ANYTHING on, all by simply turning a level control 6 clicks each way.Hey, I listen to audiophile stuff, sure, but I like Rock like Styx and REO and Scandal and Rick Springfield.I also like Tom Petty and Judas Priest and AC/ DC and Mary Chapin Carpenter and Dixie Chicks.The CF 3 will get "audiophile's", not QUITE like a Matrix 801, but few speakers will.In the last 4 years, I have went through many sets of speakers.VMPS RM 40's, Magnepan MG 3A's, Von Schweikert VR 4 Jr's, Magnepan SMGA's and Polk SRS 2's among others.All are gone except the Big Polks, only because I have gotten around to selling them.I kept my Matrix 801's.But the Matrix 801's just can't REALLY Rock like the CF 3's can.If anyone remembers Inmate Layman, he used to talk of a "warmth curve" some designers built into speakers.This is a gradually sloping response from around 1K downward to 20K.Maybe because the crossover point in the CF 3 is around 1K what the level adjustment of the amps is doing is simulating a warmth curve.Whatever - all I know is I can listen to ANYTHING, and easily make it sound good.It is amazing that Cd's we THOUGHT were "bad recordings" really are not that bad at all.Many of our so called "high end" speakers are little more then thin, bright speakers, tone controls we cant turn off.We give up on music we WANTED to listen to, and now only listen to audiophile stuff.Screw that, I want it ALL, and the CF 3, set up with amps it likes, comes pretty darn close to giving you what you want in a speaker.The BEST part of this whole review I saved for last.There are plenty of CF 3's and CF 4's around for under a grand.I bought my CF 3's version ones for 800.00, but version 2's go for around 600.00.Did they make me Tap My Toes ? No, I got up and started "conducting"They have a rich, full lower midrange, singers have chests, guitars have Body, Piano's have weight.Yes, they are a LITTLE colored, but in a musical way.They lack the extreme highs of the B&W Matrix 801 tweeter, but that is nitpicking.And the 801 has a better midrange, but you would be surprised how close the CF 3 comes to the 801.I was listening to Blackmore's Night, and the strings and trumpets were faithfully reproduced by the 801 and the CF 3.On Rock, it is no contest, the CF 3 kicks the 801's ass.If you like Rock, you will LOVE the Klipsch CF 3.My review only applies to a CF 3 run as I describe.A stock, non passively biamped CF 3 is hard to get sounding rightProduct Weakness: Extreme Highs not as good as best, amp fussy, big, need careful placement to sound best. Product Strengths: Powerful, efficient, musical, great imaging, low distortion, can be easily adjusted to be forgiving/Detailed/Transparent/MusicalAssociated Equipment for this Review:Amplifier: GVD Audio P6500 - Parasound HCA 500Preamplifier (or None if Integrated): Dared TubeSources (CDP/Turntable): CD ChangerSpeakers: B&W 801's - Polk SRS 2's - Von Schweikert Vortex ScreensCables/Interconnects: Radio Shack Flat speaker wire in true bi wireMusic Used (Genre/Selections): all kindsRoom Size (LxWxH): 20 x 24 x 8Room Comments/Treatments: suspended sloped ceiling, my fat assTime Period/Length of Audition: 2 yearsOther (Power Conditioner etc.): PowerVarType of Audition/Review: Product Owner

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Amplifier: GVD Audio P6500 - Parasound HCA 500Preamplifier (or None if Integrated): Dared TubeSources (CDP/Turntable): CD ChangerSpeakers: B&W 801's - Polk SRS 2's - Von Schweikert Vortex ScreensCables/Interconnects: Radio Shack Flat speaker wire in true bi wireMusic Used (Genre/Selections): all kindsRoom Size (LxWxH): 20 x 24 x 8Room Comments/Treatments: suspended sloped ceiling, my fat assTime Period/Length of Audition: 2 yearsOther (Power Conditioner etc.): PowerVarType of Audition/Review: Product Owner

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Associated Equipment for this Review:Amplifier: GVD Audio P6500 - Parasound HCA 500Preamplifier (or None if Integrated): Dared TubeSources (CDP/Turntable): CD ChangerSpeakers: B&W 801's - Polk SRS 2's - Von Schweikert Vortex ScreensCables/Interconnects: Radio Shack Flat speaker wire in true bi wireMusic Used (Genre/Selections): all kindsRoom Size (LxWxH): 20 x 24 x 8Room Comments/Treatments: suspended sloped ceiling, my fat assTime Period/Length of Audition: 2 yearsOther (Power Conditioner etc.): PowerVarType of Audition/Review: Product Owner

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REVIEW: Klipsch Klipsch CF 3 Speakers Model: Klipsch CF 3Category: SpeakersSuggested Retail Price: $2500.00Description: Dual 10%22 Neo Magnet Woofers With 2%22 Throat Neo Compresion Driver And Tractrix HornManufacturer URL: KlipschReview by ka7niq on March 18, 2008 at 23:00:37IP Address: 72.64.158.90Add Your Reviewfor the Klipsch CF 3The Klipsch Epic Series speakers were Klipsch's attempt at a "high end" sound.There are several models in the Epic Series, the CF 2, an dual 8" with a Horn, the CF 3 - A dual 10" speaker with a horn in the center, and the CF 4, a dual 12" with a horn.The cone drivers are of very high quality, and use Neodym Magnets.The compression driver has a 2" throat, and also uses Neo Magnets in the CF 3 and CF 4.The CF 2 uses a phenolic diaphragm compression driver, not sure of it's magnets.The CF 3 and CF 4 use an aluminum dome compression driver with Neodym magnets coupled to a Tractrix horn centered between the cone drivers.The crossover provides for easy bi wiring AND Passive Biamp, more on that later.The Epic series did not sell very well, and was not well received by the Klipsch dealers.It did not have that typical Klipsch sound {Thank God}, and was not as efficient as other Klipsch speakers.Being a quasi D'Appolito type array meant you had to sit down to really hear it, unlike the other Klipsch speakers that sounded "good" standing up.As a result of the dealers slow sales of the Epic Series, Klipsch Marketing Salesmen demanded a re design of the speaker.The re design was called series 2, and this is what they did to the speakers.Port tuning was raised by using 3 inch ports instead of the originals 6 inch ports, and a crossover change was also done.The Epic series 3 speakers had a lighter woofer for even more efficiency, but with a huge loss of sound quality.Many of you will probably want to try a pair of these marvelous speakers after reading this review, just stay away from the series 3's.The series ones are the most desirable, series two second.Series two can ALMOST be "restored" to series one performance by simply pulling the old 3 inch ports out, and replacing with 6 inch ports{They pull right out, easily}In stock form, the Horn runs too hot.These crossover to the Horn driver at around 1000 hz.Unless you place these on a wall or almost in a corner, the horn overwhelms the other drivers.And once on a wall, kiss your imaging bye bye too.Even on a wall/corner, the horns level is still too hot, making the speaker ruthless of equipment/source.The solution ?Remove the metal jumpers on the back of the speaker, and use two amps, and one MUST have level controls.Use one amp to power the woofers, and one to power the horn.About amplifiers, these seem to like high current big solid state amps best.Currently, I am using a GVD Audio on the woofers, and a little Parasound HCA 500 on the horn.My preamp is a Tube Dared with used GE NOS 12AT7 tubes I got from Jim McShane.I am using dual runs of Radio Shack flat speaker wire that Albert Von Schweikert turned me on to.These speakers are SUPER amp critical like many horns.That first 10 watts gotta be clean, or you will hear it.The GVD Audio P6500 has been a total surprise.It is a "pro sound" type amp with balanced connectors and cooling fans instead of heat sinks.My tech looked inside it, and flipped out. He said "This amp is a current mirror".I said WTF is a current mirror ?He told me it is an advanced amp design that cancels out distortion and allows for lower feedback.Ho hum, but HOW does it SOUND ? In this case, excellent.I have another GVD Audio p 6500 amp, but it sounds so good the way I have it, I am afraid to touch anything.I have B&W matrix 801's, they are my reference.Do the CF 3's sound like the Matrix 801's, not quite, but when I listen to the CF 3's, I dont miss my 801's.Does that make any sense ?The CF 3's are imaging Mo Fo's, and will cast a 3d sound field in a heartbeat.Do NOT "assume" a big box will not image.Imaging is very very good, almost single driver like.MAYBE it is because the 10 inch drivers are both in operation up to 1K and are becoming directional like a single driver speaker would ?The CF 3 also has a coherence about it, once the level on the horn is reduced.BTW,, once you are passively bi amped, you simply adjust the level of the amp that has level controls. You want to reduce the horns level relative to its woofers.Once you get it adjusted, you can also make "settings" on the amps level controls.We all know a bright speaker can sound great on the best recordings, but sound like shit on all else. The CF 3's, used in passive bi amp mode with level adjustment will allow you to have both an impress your audio buddies with detail speaker, and a speaker you can listen to ANYTHING on, all by simply turning a level control 6 clicks each way.Hey, I listen to audiophile stuff, sure, but I like Rock like Styx and REO and Scandal and Rick Springfield.I also like Tom Petty and Judas Priest and AC/ DC and Mary Chapin Carpenter and Dixie Chicks.The CF 3 will get "audiophile's", not QUITE like a Matrix 801, but few speakers will.In the last 4 years, I have went through many sets of speakers.VMPS RM 40's, Magnepan MG 3A's, Von Schweikert VR 4 Jr's, Magnepan SMGA's and Polk SRS 2's among others.All are gone except the Big Polks, only because I have gotten around to selling them.I kept my Matrix 801's.But the Matrix 801's just can't REALLY Rock like the CF 3's can.If anyone remembers Inmate Layman, he used to talk of a "warmth curve" some designers built into speakers.This is a gradually sloping response from around 1K downward to 20K.Maybe because the crossover point in the CF 3 is around 1K what the level adjustment of the amps is doing is simulating a warmth curve.Whatever - all I know is I can listen to ANYTHING, and easily make it sound good.It is amazing that Cd's we THOUGHT were "bad recordings" really are not that bad at all.Many of our so called "high end" speakers are little more then thin, bright speakers, tone controls we cant turn off.We give up on music we WANTED to listen to, and now only listen to audiophile stuff.Screw that, I want it ALL, and the CF 3, set up with amps it likes, comes pretty darn close to giving you what you want in a speaker.The BEST part of this whole review I saved for last.There are plenty of CF 3's and CF 4's around for under a grand.I bought my CF 3's version ones for 800.00, but version 2's go for around 600.00.Did they make me Tap My Toes ? No, I got up and started "conducting"They have a rich, full lower midrange, singers have chests, guitars have Body, Piano's have weight.Yes, they are a LITTLE colored, but in a musical way.They lack the extreme highs of the B&W Matrix 801 tweeter, but that is nitpicking.And the 801 has a better midrange, but you would be surprised how close the CF 3 comes to the 801.I was listening to Blackmore's Night, and the strings and trumpets were faithfully reproduced by the 801 and the CF 3.On Rock, it is no contest, the CF 3 kicks the 801's ass.If you like Rock, you will LOVE the Klipsch CF 3.My review only applies to a CF 3 run as I describe.A stock, non passively biamped CF 3 is hard to get sounding rightProduct Weakness: Extreme Highs not as good as best, amp fussy, big, need careful placement to sound best. Product Strengths: Powerful, efficient, musical, great imaging, low distortion, can be easily adjusted to be forgiving/Detailed/Transparent/MusicalAssociated Equipment for this Review:Amplifier: GVD Audio P6500 - Parasound HCA 500Preamplifier (or None if Integrated): Dared TubeSources (CDP/Turntable): CD ChangerSpeakers: B&W 801's - Polk SRS 2's - Von Schweikert Vortex ScreensCables/Interconnects: Radio Shack Flat speaker wire in true bi wireMusic Used (Genre/Selections): all kindsRoom Size (LxWxH): 20 x 24 x 8Room Comments/Treatments: suspended sloped ceiling, my fat assTime Period/Length of Audition: 2 yearsOther (Power Conditioner etc.): PowerVarType of Audition/Review: Product Owner This post is made possible by the generous support of people like you and our sponsors: Sonic Craft Topic - REVIEW: Klipsch Klipsch CF 3 Speakers - ka7niq 23:00:37 03/18/08 (17) I had the CF-2 - robber 10:17:12 03/21/08 (1) Shhhh Rob ..... Don't tell everyone ? - ka7niq 19:37:53 03/21/08 (0) What ever happened to those Cerwin Vegas? - Mike in NJ 10:39:40 03/20/08 (1) RE: What ever happened to those Cerwin Vegas? - ka7niq 19:15:38 03/21/08 (0) Twins seperated at birth? - Panelhead 08:12:43 03/19/08 (5) RE: Twins seperated at birth? - ka7niq 08:52:07 03/19/08 (4) Maybe not Originals - Panelhead 20:21:08 03/20/08 (3) What VERSION CF 3 ??? - ka7niq 19:24:18 03/21/08 (2) Had to be original CF 3 - Panelhead 08:01:28 03/22/08 (1) RE: Had to be original CF 3 - ka7niq 16:46:45 03/23/08 (0) K-63 - djk 00:04:52 03/19/08 (1) RE: K-63 - ka7niq 07:57:08 03/19/08 (0) Nuts! Now you've made me sorry I said 'pass' on a pair for $500!! - Otis W 23:25:39 03/18/08 (4) Why The Matrix 801 ?? - ka7niq 08:39:36 03/19/08 (3) One more that sounds like the B&W 801 - Atexanathome 17:53:49 03/19/08 (1) RE: One more that sounds like the B&W 801 - ka7niq 18:58:36 03/19/08 (0) Wow, great, great stuff, thanks KA7!! 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Product Weakness: Extreme Highs not as good as best, amp fussy, big, need careful placement to sound best. Product Strengths: Powerful, efficient, musical, great imaging, low distortion, can be easily adjusted to be forgiving/Detailed/Transparent/MusicalAssociated Equipment for this Review:Amplifier: GVD Audio P6500 - Parasound HCA 500Preamplifier (or None if Integrated): Dared TubeSources (CDP/Turntable): CD ChangerSpeakers: B&W 801's - Polk SRS 2's - Von Schweikert Vortex ScreensCables/Interconnects: Radio Shack Flat speaker wire in true bi wireMusic Used (Genre/Selections): all kindsRoom Size (LxWxH): 20 x 24 x 8Room Comments/Treatments: suspended sloped ceiling, my fat assTime Period/Length of Audition: 2 yearsOther (Power Conditioner etc.): PowerVarType of Audition/Review: Product Owner

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Topic - REVIEW: Klipsch Klipsch CF 3 Speakers - ka7niq 23:00:37 03/18/08 (17) I had the CF-2 - robber 10:17:12 03/21/08 (1) Shhhh Rob ..... Don't tell everyone ? - ka7niq 19:37:53 03/21/08 (0) What ever happened to those Cerwin Vegas? - Mike in NJ 10:39:40 03/20/08 (1) RE: What ever happened to those Cerwin Vegas? - ka7niq 19:15:38 03/21/08 (0) Twins seperated at birth? - Panelhead 08:12:43 03/19/08 (5) RE: Twins seperated at birth? - ka7niq 08:52:07 03/19/08 (4) Maybe not Originals - Panelhead 20:21:08 03/20/08 (3) What VERSION CF 3 ??? - ka7niq 19:24:18 03/21/08 (2) Had to be original CF 3 - Panelhead 08:01:28 03/22/08 (1) RE: Had to be original CF 3 - ka7niq 16:46:45 03/23/08 (0) K-63 - djk 00:04:52 03/19/08 (1) RE: K-63 - ka7niq 07:57:08 03/19/08 (0) Nuts! Now you've made me sorry I said 'pass' on a pair for $500!! - Otis W 23:25:39 03/18/08 (4) Why The Matrix 801 ?? - ka7niq 08:39:36 03/19/08 (3) One more that sounds like the B&W 801 - Atexanathome 17:53:49 03/19/08 (1) RE: One more that sounds like the B&W 801 - ka7niq 18:58:36 03/19/08 (0) Wow, great, great stuff, thanks KA7!! (nt) - Otis W 17:28:53 03/19/08 (0) FAQ Post a Message! Forgot Password? Moniker (Username): Password (Optional): Remember my Moniker & Password (What's this?) Eat Me E-Mail (Optional): Subject: Message: (Posts are subject to Content Rules) Optional Link URL: Optional Link Title: Optional Image URL: Upload Image: E-mail Replies: Automagically notify you when someone responds. To view your new posting or follow-up, click on the RELOAD or REFRESH button on your browser. [ Top of Page ] [ Contact Us ] [ Support/Wish List ] [ Copyright © 2024, Audio Asylum, all rights reserved ] [ General ] [ Speakers ] [ Tubes ] [ Vinyl ] [ Digital ] [ Hi-Rez ] [ Video Asylum ] [ Cables ] [ Tweaks/DIY ] [ Music ] [ Films ]

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